1. Let's begin by defining discrimination, as it's totally different to the concept of eating meat. The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'discrimination' as "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex." The word 'people' there indicates that different species by definition cannot be discriminated against.
2. Your whole argument is based around the paradoxical situation of discriminating against people for discriminating over another issue. Did it not occur to you that you might also be discriminating against people who eat meat? You have no right to take the moral high ground over this issue, especially when you directly compare black people to animals.
3. "If you're not vegan you can't be against discrimination." Tell that to Nelson Mandela; a man who isn't a vegan. Discrimination comes in different forms, of which different species isn't one. I don't recall Mandela redefining words to make a point that's hypocritical to begin with.
4. We continue with more incorrect statements. Stating that all animals have the right to live is naive and going against the principles of evolution and natural selection dictated by Charles Darwin, which unfortunately for you is widely accepted by the scientific community. Not every animal has the right to live as ecosystems and populations always reach a theoretical equilibrium. The metaphor below perfectly shows the theory of carrying capacity, and so the organisms that are flowing over the top of the bucket do not have the right to live.
5. Something tells me you might be taking your points very much out of context. There's a huge difference between the mistreatment of a human ethnicity and the humane killing of animals. Animals have separate rights because they're biologically different not just to humans but to each other as well, and so should not like you suggest be treated equally. You certainly provide no factual evidence as to why your points should be considered a serious argument, and you certainly don't back up your comparison of black people to that of livestock, which would have at least justified your absurd theory. Surely you must be aware that people, including myself, will find your argument clinically stupid.
6. "Animals are victimised and seen as inanimate objects." You sure they're seen as 'inanimate'. I thought people were very much aware that animals are living, moving organisms, and you have no evidence to suggest otherwise. Then you start trying to play the oppression card and try to integrate the rights of animals into human society, which is totally irrelevant since the issue is between two different species. Two different species with entirely different brain functions.
7. Speciesism. Really? What do you suggest, allowing dolphins onto the property ladder? How about giving polar bears equal pay? I've never heard of a concept so ridiculous in my life.
8. Why can't you accept that society has taught us to value different things in their own different ways for a reason? Do you honestly believe that humanity is where it is today if it didn't exploit the environment around it? Nature is about competition, not equality. Even a concept as simple as a food chain is proof that different species manipulate the world around them in different ways. Humans have manipulated the world a lot. That's something that you should be thankful for, not criticise it. I doubt you gave much of a shit about this equality when you effectively chopped down a load of trees for that wooden furniture in your room. Practice what you preach.
9. "A pig is smarter than a two year old child." Well fuck this idea of species equality, as even you're now valuing different species by their intelligence. Where is the limit to this speciesism? That house you're filming in was plonked on the natural habitat that was home to thousands of animals, but I doubt you give too much of a shit about that, because you're the one benefiting from this situation.
10. Plants can feel pain. They have simple nervous systems that secrete hormones to avoid predation and abiotic stress. Your argument that veganism solves these problems is inherently flawed, as is this idea of speciesism, which surely must apply to plants as well; you fucking monster. Just because plants look different doesn't mean you can just objectify and slaughter them.
11. "Veganism is being equal to one another." Says the person taking the moral high ground in this argument, and if I'm not mistaken chastising the opinions of those who eat meat. What a fucking hypocritical point.
12. "You never see cows roaming free in the wild." I present to you the Chillingham cattle. Yet another piece of incorrect and poorly researched information; but then it is quite obvious that you put very little thought into the whole argument.
13. "Speciesism is the route of discrimination." Wait, what? Where's the evidence to even suggest that these two concepts are even linked to each other? Just because people prioritise themselves over a different species doesn't mean those views automatically transfer to within their own species.
14. If you're going to start banging on about how it's wrong for people to discriminate against others because of how they look, then would you please like to explain to me why you're wearing a ton of makeup and a low cut top? I wouldn't say wanting to look better than other people isn't necessary for survival, yet you still choose to inflate your ego so that others would look upon you favorably and you feel good. I guess the same point about enjoyment can be said for why I choose to eat meat.
15. Just because people are taught to dislike certain animals doesn't mean they're going to abuse them. Claiming that the mistreatment of animals is caused by the views of society is just jumping to conclusions, not taking into account any external factors. There's a reason why dogs are valued above cattle in society, and that can be attributed to their role in history and relationships with humans. In other words dogs deserve to be treated better than cows do.
16. Farming is an effective method of conservation. It's not designed to work with animal welfare in mind, but the economic benefits of certain animals means that humans will be more inclined to protect the species. I'll admit it's not a great solution, but if you're still against this idea then please direct me to a conservation approach that's working better than the role farming has on animal populations.
17. "Stop living in the past." Says the person bringing African American slavery into the argument.
18. Oh my god, are you actually giving plants a value like they were some inanimate object. You fucking speciesist. Just because a potato has a lower monetary value doesn't mean you can start to deny of it of any rights. Surely according to your logic the potato should have an equal value to other vegetables, so how dare you objectify the potato in your argument. That really is how stupid your argument sounds.
Overall I just hate that you try and put human suffering into the unrelated argument of farming and meat consumption. Historical events such as the oppression of black people in society and so called 'speciesism' are two different points, that despite your lack of evidence cannot be directly compared to one another. It's clear that you have no fucking clue on the fine details of either argument, getting your feelings in the way of the actual facts and just generally jumping to conclusions. Are you honestly surprised at the backlash your ignorant comments are getting, especially when they're full of hypocrisy and incorrect information?
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